„Wir haben gute und schlechte Zeiten“: Produktdesigner Sebastian Conran über seinen Vater – und perfekte Küchenhelfer

Produktdesigner Sebastian Conran

From stacking shelves at Habitat in his teens to running Studio Conran, Sebastian’s life has been focused on understanding how things are made, sold, and used, as well as designing innovative, stylish & satisfying products. He has seen many thousands of successful & enduring products through from concept to consumer. Whether for John Lewis or Virgin Atlantic, Nigella or Nissan, to the many other industry leading clients across the globe that he has worked with during his career.

After leaving Bryanston school with A levels in Maths, Physics & Chemistry, Sebastian studied Industrial Design Engineering at Central St. Martins; where as Union treasurer he gave the Sex Pistols their first booking, and designed the record sleeves, posters, and clothing for The Clash.

1978: joined corporate identity consultancy Wolff Olins, taking creative responsibility for key accounts such as Shell and Pilkington.

1981: led hard-merchandise design at Mothercare – a role that transformed the appearance and performance of childcare equipment.

1986: started product design studio, Sebastian Conran Associates.

1991: formed furniture design & manufacturing studio/workshops with Tom Dixon

1999: SCA merged with the Conran group where Sebastian was responsible for all product and branding design.

2009: Sebastian Conran Associates is re-established in purpose built studio workshops in Kensington

He has taught furniture design at the Royal College of Art; lectures frequently; judges many international design awards [Audi, D&AD, Design Week, Dyson, Red Dot, RSA, etc.]; and has written several books, articles and papers on design.

An active member of many bodies, he has also worked with many design & educational institutions including:

Designer in Residence, Sheffield University Science Faculty

Visiting Professor of the University of the Arts London

Chairman TSB’s Design SIG transforming science into culture

Chairman of Design & Technology Alliance – UK Home Office’s body tackling crime with design

Chairman of the Creative Industries KTN steering group Technologies Innovation Network

Chairman Design Action in Scotland steering group Scotland’s Design & Industry knowledge exchange

Trustee of the Design Council – the UK’s national strategic body for design

Trustee of the Design Museum, and the Conran Foundation its founding body

Governor and Trustee of Bryanston School

Trustee of D&AD, the international body of creative professionals

Hon. Fellow, the Royal College of Art

Hon. Doctorate of Technology, Loughborough University

Hon. Doctorate of Arts, Hertfordshire University

Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts

Fellow of the Chartered Society of Designers

Fellow of the Institute of Packaging

Ambassador for ICAN, the children’s education charity

Ambassador for ACID, the anti copying in design lobby group

Awards

Universal Expert ‚Share + Serve‘ collection
Red Dot design award

Universal Expert ‚Prep + Cook‘ collection
Red Dot design award

Universal Expert ‚Counter + Sink‘ collection
Red Dot design award

Leonardo icon range
Red Dot design award

Tchibo kitchen
IF product design award

Sainsburys bY range
D&AD product design selection
Elle Deco most iconic products of the year

Nigella Lawson’s Living Kitchen
Homes & Garden’s Judges Award

Villeroy & Boch Aveo bathroom
IF product design awards

Smart Cafe Cafetiere
Design Council Millennium product

Smart Cafe OneCup
Red Dot product design award

Equilibrium scales
Excellence in Housewares award
FX design award

Micromap
British invention of the Year
Design Council Millennium product

John Lewis Radius Table
Furniture Guild Design Mark

John Lewis Boxer Shelves
Furniture Guild Design Mark

John Lewis Aerofoil Desk
Furniture Guild Design Mark

Anywayupcup
DBA Design effectiveness award, best of year
BFP most innovative use of plastic Horner’s Award
Design Council Millennium product

Sealine, T60 Aura Yacht Interior
Red Dot Award
Cannes Boat Show, Best in Category
Garmin, Motorboat of the Year

Yamagiwa Stem Ray light
Red Dot Award

Mothercare Via Pushchair
BFP most innovative use of plastic Horner’s Award

Yotel, Compact Hotels
International Forum, Product Design Award
Red Dot Award.

Siems Luckwaldt: Now, the names _____ (0:07), Westwood, Macqueen, Foster, even in this department store, top shelf. What gets us so crazy about British brands even just British sounding brands? What’s the secret?
Sebastian Conran:I think often it’s a sort of playful, pragmatism, but I think you also have your astonishingly good brands as well. I think maybe London is an inspirational place, which attracts inspirational people.There are inspirational people everywhere. We all have our own style. There is a British style and it has a look and a feel, which is exciting. But then I get excited about Japanese style, I get excited about Scandinavian style, I get excited about Berlin style, New York style. Everyone has it. I think at the moment, we’re celebrating London style.

I read that you love to create with a smile, creating a smile in the mind is one of your philosophies behind your design work. Along those lines, what makes a product satisfying for the consumer and even for the designer who first envisioned it?
This is a lovely example. I think, originally these were going to go out flat packed. The idea is that you can put the toast in, if it’s fat toast it goes in that way, if its thin toast it goes in that way. I use it for keeping my letters and stuff in. I find all sorts of uses for these at home. See over there we’ve got our catalogs in them. The first time I saw them outside of the store was in a market store where people were putting postcards in them. It’s the idea that things can be repurposed. One of the things that people are always said when they look at our stuff is that it’s all very thoughtful. I think Leonardo Da Vinci said, “Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.” It’s very complex getting things simple or to appear simple. It’s a huge fandango to make it…organize it… Anyone can design something that’s complicated and expensive, but designing things that are simple and affordable, as you say satisfying to use, is I guess what the trick is, isn’t it?

Now, as you’ve just demonstrated, you know your way around a kitchen definitely. I read that you were an avid cook.
I enjoy it. I don’t think I’m particularly good, but I’m enthusiastic.

That’s perfectly well. What’s your best dish? What’s the one dish that you always surprise and delight your guests with?
I think a broad bean risotto is one of my favorite because you’re celebrating when broad beans are in season. I love the texture of the broad beans and their little bits of speck. You have to be there making it and serve it immediately. You cant sort of, pre-prepare it. It has to be done there and then. If you get it absolutely right, it’s very exciting. It’s a very simple dish. But if you get it right, it’s fantastic.

Say it once again, the recipe’s name?
It’s a broad bean risotto.

All right. You talk about soft twentieth century minimalism a lot. Could you give us the 30-second elevator pitch for this concept?
Well, what I’m saying is that these products are twenty-first century and they are softly styled, without being feminine or over styled. They’ve clearly been designed, but not overdesigned. The minimalism goes into not just the appearance, but the thought that’s gone into them. I’m not doing very well on my 30-second elevator pitch. It’s interesting, you’ve asked me this question and I have to…I use the expression because that’s the way someone else described it to me and I thought, wow, that’s a terrific way of describing it. I think it’s twenty-first century because although they’re traditional materials, they’re designed to last and they’re designed to continue to give satisfaction. I’ve been designing kitchen wear for 40 years now and I was in Brooklyn the other day and I found one of my early designs in a flea market.

Did you but it?
No. I talked to the person selling it and they immediately put the price up, but what I thought was interesting was…at least it’s not in a landfill. If you design things in plastics, I just think they tend to end up in a landfill. They don’t grow old gracefully. Wood and glass and metals tend to retain their usefulness for a far longer period. The environmental impact of making things in plastic or making things in metal or ceramic…I don’t think that’s so much of the issue as designed to last. In the time you’ve had one of these, someone else might have gone through three plastic ones. So, I think that’s probably not very good retailing because it doesn’t promote consumerism, but there we are.


You’ve been challenged by so many different things from so many different genres in your design work over the years, what’s the weirdest or most difficult project that you and your studio had to tackle?

I could tell you some very funny ones, but I’m not going to tell you that because it would embarrass you and it would certainly embarrass your readers, but…

Now we’re curious.
Anyway, it’s called _____ (7:19 s/l Lovees) and we’ll leave it at that.

Okay.
What we’re doing is, we’re designing a lot of robots at the moment and devices to help people in later live, enhance the experience of later life. I’ve done a walking stick which picks itself up off the floor if it falls down.

Wow, how does it do it?
Think garden rake.

Okay.
But no one’s done it before. That is something that I like is that people look at my things and they say, “Why has no one ever done it before?” You look at this and it’s a familiar product and you think, oh…but I’ve never actually sene one like it before and it’s like, “Oh, that is a clever idea. Why has no one ever done that before?” This is a really good way of storing wine because you can see the labels and it’s portable, it doesn’t take up a lot of space and it’s on show, things like that…little things. These little universal shelves, once you buy one, you start finding all sorts of spaces where a little shelf of this size is quite useful.

Now, I have to ask you of course, when did you first realize what your parents did for a living? Specifically your father. When did you realize this magic about the design thing?
When I was a little boy…well of course, you grow up thinking that everyone grows up in the same way that you’re growing up. You think you’re normal. I wanted to be an inventor. I read a children’s story about this guy called Professor Brainstorm. He was an inventor and a scientist. When I went to school I was _____ (9:20) chemistry…my A levels. I wanted to be an engineer. My father said, “I would consider design being a more interesting profession.”

He was biased of course.
So, I went to art school and I later found out that he wanted me to take _____ (9:40) which I did not want to do, but I went to art school and learned about art for the first time and design and sort of entered it from there. I’m very much coming from a form follows fabrication. I’m interested in the materials that I’m using. I’m interested in the way that things are made. My designs are driven as much by the function and the fabrication as they are by fashion. So, I think it’s very important to be aware of design and trends. Personally I feel that this is the way I think people are going to move once they get tired of colored plastic. This is serious and for people who care about the things they use.

Two more questions, of course adding to that, working with your father, the good, the bad, the ugly…
All of that.

On different levels probably…
He’s a very inspiring person. I couldn’t wish for more interesting parents. But his aspirations for me are his aspirations for me. What counts is what my aspirations for myself are.

You’re definitely following those.
Yeah. I love him and I’ve learned loads from him and I’ve been terribly inspired from him, but I want to run my own show and not someone else’s.

I was curious reading about the design and technology alliance against crime.
Oh yeah.

Which is one of your passions.
I became a professor of design against crime at my old college. They made me a professor of design against crime.

How can design help us fight crime or prevent it or ease the impact?
In many ways. A lot of issues about crime are attitudinal. A lot of crime is attitudinal. Especially youth crime. Youth crime of course is a major issue across the world. So, the way you portray crime to youth will drive their attitude toward it. What we want to get across is that crime isn’t sexy. It’s not cool. Design can help a lot in the way _____ (12:28) that you do that, by redesigning car locks, and the way cars are made, they’ve been able to drive car crime from being one of the highest, biggest problem crimes to a very low crime in the UK.

So, redesigning security features for example could be one way.
Very simple things, you’d be surprised how simple the things are and how obvious they are. For instance, I’m working on an idea of making cars…embedding infrared information into a cars windscreen so it can be read by…because all the cameras are infrared because they have to work at night. Embedding in a car windscreen infrared information.
So, any car you can see, day or night, whether or not it’s got number plates, have the number plates been changed. It’s much more difficult to change the window on a car than it is to change the number plates. Also, a satellite over Nigeria or Belgrade can look down and read a cars windscreen.

But would not be able to read the number plate because it’s very…
Well, the number plate has been changed. The windscreen is much more difficult…so if Mercedes Benz were to use this patented technology, it would drive the high-end thefts down.

That’s quite a lot of impact you’re having there.
These are just a couple of examples at different ends. I’ve chosen cars because it’s a very obvious one. But youth crime is shoplifting crime. But in the UK amazingly, since I’ve become chairman of the design technology alliance against crime, crime has dropped, coincidently I might add. It’s because we are thinking about softer approaches to policing, preventative measures rather than dealing with things once they’ve happened.

That’s perfect.
I wish I could give you a business card. I had them all printed especially for tonight, but I changed my jacket and left my cards…

You’ll always be famous on our household because of the _____ (15:22) chopstick/knife/forks.
Oh really?

They’re amazing.
The clever sticks. How extraordinary.

They’re amazing. That’s one of those items that you talked about before like, “Why did no one ever think of that? You just need two and you can have it both ways.”
Extraordinary. God, I did those 20 years ago.

I know. My parents still have them.
Lovely to meet you.

Thank you so much.

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